Chick-fil-A Pledges to Stop Funding Anti-Gay Groups

After igniting a national uproar over corporate opposition to gay marriage, the fast food chain has committed to stop funding antigay groups.

Following a national furor over the Chick-fil-A corporation’s financial support for antigay groups, the company pledged today to stop giving money to such groups.

According the Los Angeles Times, a gay and lesbian advocacy group called The Civil Rights Agenda announced that the fast food company met with them and agreed to cease donations to groups such as Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage.

Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy sparked the controversy over gay marriage and the role of companies and consumers in social movements in July when he told the Baptist Press:

"We are very much supportive of the family—the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that ... we know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

He further drew the ire of gay rights advocates when he said in a radio interview on the The Ken Coleman Show:

"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,' and I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is about.”

According to Equality Matters, a gay, lesbian and transgender rights group, Chick-fil-A donated nearly $5 million to groups that lobby against gay marriage from 2003 to 2010.

In Orange County, residents were quick to come out in favor or against the company’s stance on gay marriage by staging protests at Chick-Fil-A, route: {:controller=>"articles", :action=>"show", :id=>"watch-same-sex-marriage-debate-hits-the-deep-fryer-in-laguna-hills"} --> locations or spending money at the restaurant on

Kathi September 21, 2012 at 03:46 AM
Turns out this article isn't necessarily so. You all might want to go take a look at a later article on the same subject on the LA Times by the same writer as the one this refers to. Moreno in Chicago & others were getting all excited that they were adding a statement to corp policy about treating everyone w respect. But they already did that. Remember the video of that jerk who thought he was so noble by going through Chick-fil-A drive through to order a free water & berating the drive-thru gal for their policies? & she was very gracious throughout the whole encounter.
Jay McHue September 21, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Huh. Imagine that. A Chicago politician lying and the lame-stream media advancing it as if it were true.
Kathi September 21, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Didn't say that Moreno lied. But the newer LA Times article indicated some doubt as to the exact meaning of it all. It does seem that there is some hearing what they want to hear from whatever was said. Part of Chick-fil-A statement...“A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.” Below is link to the newer article. http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-chickfila-donations-mischaracterized-20120920,0,3547971.story
MFriedrich September 21, 2012 at 04:59 AM
Kathi, I don't blame anyone for refuting peer-reviewed, published research. The scientific community embraces doubt and responds. When it comes to scientific studies like the ones I mentioned, disagreeing with it because it doesn't fit the Christian worldview is insufficient. There are reasons why we don't have Christian Physics or Muslim Microbiology. We don't have Alaskan Psychology either. We have Physics and Microbiology and Psychology. So whenever peer-reviewed research using the scientific method is published by a major university, and the then critiqued, reviewed, and redone with different assumptions by 2 to 3 others, this is how theories are constructed, de- and reconstructed, and strengthened over time. The idea that American Christians would find this research about homosexual child rearing from institutions like Yale and the University of Amsterdam "biased" or "poor" is hardly surprising. These are the same kind of people who are convinced that the earth is 6,000 years old, that amoeba flagellum are "irreducibly complex", and that humans could not possibly have evolved from the common ancestor of chimpanzees and apes, despite mountains of evidence that we do. Christians are welcome to disagree or reject it all as false. But what they don't understand is, once they do, they have all their work still ahead of them. In terms of scientific and economic advancement, this is why America will be surpassed by other countries within the next 10 years
MFriedrich September 21, 2012 at 05:07 AM
"...programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages." Well, it sounds good. Or does it? Intentionally vague statements make me cynical. Would it be so difficult to say " and enrich all marriages"? I guess so. And we have our answer. Congratulations to Chick-fil-A press secretary for saying something but altogether nothing at the same time.
Kathi September 21, 2012 at 05:18 AM
I'd suggest that you click on the link to the LA Times article to get the full context of this. He was reiterating their policies, not re-stating a new policy in the part I quoted. You & other LGBT supporters are focusing on 1 small part of what Focus on the Family does. They have always supported families & provide lots of enrichment & help to spouses in understanding each other & their children, child rearing, dealing w various childhood issues, etc. & btw, the founder, Dr James Dobson is a psychologist who was on staff for many years at LA County USC Medical Center.
Kathi September 21, 2012 at 05:37 AM
mfriedrich, Well actually it seems that the disagreement w this study was not because of scientific lack, but rather because it didn't fit the LGBT world view. I have downloaded some pdfs of scientific papers on this topic. "The papers by Loren Marks and Mark Regnerus, in tandem, provide a challenge to the broad scholarly consensus that children raised by gay or lesbian parents suffer no deficits...." What can we learn from studies of children raised by gay or lesbian parents? by David J Eggebeen, Dept of Human Deveoplement & Family Studies, Penn State. in Social Science Reasearch 41 (2012) 775-778. He further states that Marks focuses on the quality of the science behind the findings that formed the basis of the official brief on this subject by the American Psychological Association published in 2005. The Marks paper reads like a legal brief: precise, careful, dry prose festooned with footnotes. The bottom line of this review is understated, but clear: The conclusions in the APA report are unwarranted. While Marks offers seven criticisms, in my view three seem especially relevant: (1) the limitations of the samples; (2) lack of suitable comparison groups; and (3) the lack of attention to long-term outcomes. None of these complaints are new. Most of the studies I am aware of note one or more of these limitations in their data. The difficulty is addressing these limitations...." So these are referencing scientific papers by several different persons on these subjects.
Jay McHue September 21, 2012 at 05:37 AM
Didn't say you said he lied. I said he lied, which he obviously did.
MFriedrich September 21, 2012 at 05:45 AM
I read the LA times article. I was referring to Chick-Fil-A's statement. I'm sure that the Focus on the Family performs some public good. They should commended for that. Unfortunately in most circles, those good works are not what they are most famous for.
Frieda Wales September 21, 2012 at 05:47 AM
Kathi, Oh dear, the controversies about their "child rearing" advice has been debated for decades! And if they do some "good", doesn't mean everything they touch is golden.
MFriedrich September 21, 2012 at 06:01 AM
I'm afraid someone is wrong on the internet, Kathi. I'm not saying it's you, but both Marks and Regnerus make a key epistemological error, whether intended to or not. The American Psychological Association and American Academy of Pediatrics reports state that there is no evidence of systematic difference, and Marks and Regnerus both treat this as if the reports conclude that there is conclusive evidence of lack of systematic difference. But they do not, and this is the dishonesty of their articles. Rejecting a hypothesis is not the same thing as proving a null hypothesis. The refutation and call for more precise research is great. This is how it should work. It's certainly way better than the intentional dredging and publishing of bogus data on the question by FoF. But in the end, both sides (Christians and LGBT) are probably not going to "accept" scientific study results that encumber their own issue narrative. That's America for ya.
MFriedrich September 21, 2012 at 06:03 AM
Yeah, I'm afraid I experienced some of it first hand as a young child myself.
Kathi September 21, 2012 at 06:06 AM
In most circles? You mean your narrow LGBT advocates circles. In other circles Chick-fil-A is known for their philanthropy as well as leadership conferences. Focus on the Family--Most of what they do is geared to helping families. They are on the radio locally--on KWVE they are on at about 6 pm. I happen to listen to them if I'm in my car & have heard many discussions that would be of help to most couples. Things like learning how the spouse perceives things. They constantly have guests in to discuss various things, including Gary Chapman w the 5 Love Languages (some communicate by touch, others by words, some by deeds, etc) & understanding that is important to conveying love. & while not aimed at same-sex couples, even they could probably learn & benefit from it.
Kathi September 21, 2012 at 06:16 AM
mfriedrich, Actually the article that I was quoting from stated as I quoted, that they disagreed w the APA conclusions & they listed why which I quoted. That was just a part of it, but I gave the reference to the article that I was quoting from. As I understand it, in part the data was very limited in #s & not much diversity & also not random or a truly representative cross section. As I recall, I think it was saying that the same-sex parents in the APA studies tended to be from more affluent backgrounds. But Regenerus used a broader cross-section. At any rate. I need to shut down for the night.
MFriedrich September 21, 2012 at 06:25 AM
Yeah, Kathi, everybody in the country but LGBT advocates is just in love with what James Dobson and FoF stands for. C'mon. I'm not even an LGBT "advocate". Even I recognize b.s. justifications for discrimination when I see it. FoF's rationale for discriminating against people is pretty much doomed. Before it was the US anti-miscegenation laws. Those were forever overturned in 1967. So too will it be regarding homosexuality and gay marriage. Only a matter of time.
Dan Avery September 21, 2012 at 07:13 AM
Lindsey, I thought we ate chicken abortions for breakfast...
Dan Avery September 21, 2012 at 07:14 AM
Shame it took a huge drop in sales to make them see the light PCM...
Dan Avery September 21, 2012 at 07:16 AM
Kathi, Actually the hate and discrimination are coming from your group. Just admit it and move on.
Dan Avery September 21, 2012 at 07:17 AM
Kathi, There are perfectly functioning families where one or both parents are gay. Get real. What you're saying is thinly veiled bigotry.
Dan Avery September 21, 2012 at 07:23 AM
Okay here's the deal with studies. I can always find one like Kathi has that contradicts what I want it to. However, the preponderance of evidence suggests that there is no significant difference between gay or straight parents. The reason is simple and I'll give it to you in one word: Love. If you show a child love and teach them to think and do right, it doesn't matter what your sexual preference is. If you don't love kids and don't provide a role model for them, it doesn't matter what your sexual preference is. Get a clue folks. This isn't even close to rocket science.
Dan Avery September 21, 2012 at 07:26 AM
"Some" good doesn't even mean they do a lot of good. It just means they don't suck 24/7.
Joker Joe September 21, 2012 at 04:34 PM
God is great!!!
Tim D September 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM
I support gay marriage but I also support the freedoms this country was founded on to support personal causes without retribution. I am sorry they caved to the pressure of a bunch of radical zealots. Why don't you practice what you preach and let people live life as they personally see fit. You are worse than the people you protest against. And leave God out of it.
Lancer September 22, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Seems to me that this whole issue was blown out out of proportion with Chick-o-fil benefiting from all the free air time and news coverage. Having tried their fare, and not being overly impressed by it, I think they need all the free advertising they can get. Also, didn't one of their CEO's pass away quite suddenly after making their initial statement against gay marriage? That struck me as a rather unusual occurance, almost like a sign that someone wasn't happy or something. And, if the military can finally accept openly gay individuals, why can't Chick-o-fil?
Kathi September 22, 2012 at 12:53 AM
It was a spokesperson--not a CEO. & people do die suddenly so I wouldn't read anything into that. & yeah, this whole thing was blown way out of proportion. They give to groups that support families. This statement reiterates their policies. As far as their food, many people are very fond of it. As I recall, I had a salad that day which was just fine. But they are from GA & it seems that in CA we are more accustomed to healthy fare, although theirs is probably similar to many other places & much healthier than say KFC or the ones that mostly serve fried chicken. So on that one day they got a huge bounce in sales. & probably some people are eating there more regularly & others not. We have freedom to choose to eat there or not. Depends on what you mean by accepting openly gay individuals. They have always stated that they do not discriminate. I haven't noticed that they screen people on their sexual preferences before serving them. & I believe their statement also said they wouldn't in hiring. So the big point that many missed in all this is that while the founder & the owners of the co believe in Christian values & the biblical definition of marriage, they treat all people w respect. So the whole point was about viewpoint discrimination. It was never about them practicing discrimination--they don't.
Kathi September 22, 2012 at 01:03 AM
I believe they have revised some of their earlier books. But it seems that most people are reacting out of ignorance of what they do now. I happen to catch them on the radio frequently & its always helpful info basically on various types of interpersonal relationships, especially in family settings. People often bring their own prior assumptions into relationships without even realizing that they are operating on different assumptions. Of course that can greatly hinder communications so they bring those things out into the open to help couples to recognize & deal w them, among other things. & while each program may be aimed at a particular type of audience, a lot of it can apply generally. They have a lot of guests w experience & expertise in all sorts of situations. One thing that they have been encouraging is adoption & not just of babies but also of the many older children needing a loving home. & they have discussed the challenges that can bring w helpful advice for dealing w it. They are on KWVE 107.9 M-F at 6 or 6:30 pm & other stations as well. I think a lot of people would be surprised to listen to them.
Kathi September 22, 2012 at 01:08 AM
Well, I'm still not saying that he lied. Rather he heard what he wanted to hear. The later article acknowledged that it is not clear exactly what the statement meant which was mostly a reiteration of their existing policy although they did add anti-discrimination language to official corp policy, but what a lot of people that got all excited in the 1st place didn't realize is that they don't discriminate. It was all about viewpoint discrimination. & they supported what even Pres. Obama said he was for when he was running previously! Now all of a sudden that is considered terrible?
Kathi September 22, 2012 at 01:15 AM
Dan Avery, You might want to actually read these studies. The issue that they found was that those in the so-call preponderance of evidence that they APA went by had serious methodological issues. The samples were NOT random. I believe most were volunteers which right off the bat can skew results. Also they were small samples that tended to be higher income people. & in addition, most of the prior researchers had an axe to grind--they were out to demonstrate that there is no difference, rather than neutrally studying to see if there are differences. I think any unbiased person can see that if you have researchers using self-selected samples where both the researcher & probably the sample subjects have an interest in showing a particular result, that the results obtained may not be truly representative of a wider population.
Myna B September 22, 2012 at 01:58 AM
How about getting a food review on Chick-fil-A to see how long they may stay in business in So.Cal? These days, if a fast food chain doesn't respond to it's customer's feedback, they get replaced by those who do. I'd rather go to Wendy's than Chick-fil-A when I want a chicken sandwitch.
Rich Kane September 22, 2012 at 02:55 AM
I actually penned a food review of the first Chick-fil-A that ever opened in OC, the one in Irvine, back in 2004 ...


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