Pizza Chain's Obamacare Stance Spurs Dueling Protests

After Papa John's says it will slice employee hours and boost prices to pay for Affordable Care Act costs, people on both sides pounce. Will you buy or boycott?

Hoping to replicate the success of Chick-fil-A after it was boycotted over gay rights, conservatives are staging a pro-pizza day to counter protests against Papa John's Obamacare stance.

At issue is Papa John owner John Schnatter's announcement that he would raise prices and slice employee hours to pay for costs associated with the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

As liberals began organizing boycotts of the pizza chain, Papa John's supporters created a Facebook page to promote National Papa John's Appreciation Day on Friday.

"Papa Johns has been targeted by the left for a boycott, for simply articulating that ObamaCare would hurt profits and force cutbacks in employee hours," the Facebook page says. "Stand up to this nonsensical and illogical action and support Papa John's this Friday."

The pro-Papa event is reminiscent of Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, which saw droves of people nationwide patronize the fast-food chain after its CEO came under fire for criticizing gay marriage.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the pepperoni fence, anti-Papa forces have urged people to switch to local pizza joints this week. "Papa John's owner has decided to combat the Affordable Healthcare Act by increasing his prices, threatening terminations and lowering employee hours - simply to avoid and protest employee health benefits," said one pro-boycott invitation.

A story at Forbes.com says Papa John's will see a 0.4 to 0.7 percent increase in healthcare costs for employees working 30 or more hours a week under the new law.

Will you buy or boycott Papa John's? Tell us in the comments.

Andromeda November 16, 2012 at 06:25 PM
Mr. Friedrich, Let me take your comment point by point. I realize politicians are untrustworthy. All politicians of both stripes. But we need people to point out the lies that other people may not have noticed. That too is part of a democracy. To make others aware. If we merely accept the lies and the deceit without standing up and saying "This is wrong. We gave you our money and our votes to elect you to high office. And then we find out you lied to us to get those money and votes, which was an act of fraud. We expect more from our leaders." Otherwise we are not being governed, we are being ruled. Get it??? So the idea is to give more to the leeches and take more away from the productive citizens? That will only result in more leeches. Don't you see what the end game here is when there are more leeches than productive citizens? The republicans were only interested in providing a windfall to their Wall Street buddies. And mandated insurance did that. Now the King demands that if we live and breathe that we pay a private company for his private product ...... or else. I hope you like paying for free health care too as our leech population continues to grow. ObamaCare was supposed to REDUCE HEALTH CARE COSTS since we spend 18% of GDP today on health care. It does nothing of the sort. It only adds to health care costs, at the expense of the productive members of society - which will DEcentivize people from being productive.
Joker Joe November 16, 2012 at 06:34 PM
TOP-10 "Only In America" Observations ~ 1) Only in America, could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000.00 a plate campaign fund-raising event. 2) Only in America, could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when they have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black while only 12% of the population is black. 3) Only in America, could they have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes. 4) Only in America, can they have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash. 5) Only in America, would they make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just 'magically' become American citizens. 6) Only in America, could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as "extremists." continued
Joker Joe November 16, 2012 at 06:34 PM
7) Only in America, could you need to present a driver's license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote. 8) Only in America, could people demand the government investigate whether oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return on equity invested in a major U.S. oil company (Marathon Oil) is less than half of a company making tennis shoes (Nike). 9) Only in America, could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation in recorded history, still spend a Trillion dollars more than it has per year - for total spending of $7-Million PER MINUTE, and complain that it doesn't have nearly enough money. 10) Only in America, could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all. Ain't it the truth !
Joker Joe November 16, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Attention ALL Democrats. Ask your PRESIDENT to save Hostess. The company that makes TWINKIES. Otherwise your brains will starve to death and you will not be able to think STRAIGHT!!! EBay has Twinkies on bid starting for $100,000. It is more than the $35,000 a plate dinners but you guys are big spenders with OPM so it should not be a problem..... lol
Andromeda November 16, 2012 at 09:10 PM
ObamaCare = Cost Shifting Take from the productive. Give to the unproductive. This will only increase health care costs. In a few more years 25% of GDP will go towards health care alone. That's unsustainable. Last year the nation spent $850 billion just on health care. We spent trillions of dollars to dismantle communism. Now we are becoming what we dismantled. Uncanny.
Andromeda November 16, 2012 at 09:11 PM
That's okay, William. The Twinkie addicts don't have to go cold turkey. They can transition over to Snickers which are still covered with food stamps.
Smokey Bear November 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Sounds like everything thats wrong with America! I am losing my job, again due to outsourcing! I'm counting down my final days of employment & the people from India here on work visa's make up 95% of labcorp, thats right, they are in there celebrating their new year drinking coffee all day, standing around, working when they feel like it while we are losing our jobs & have been treated like shit for working hard! Does anyone else see this!!?
met00 November 17, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Joe Average works a job that provides no health benefits. Joe gets sick, it's just a runny nose. He goes to work. His germs pass around and now Jill, Jane and Judy get sick. But they have no benefits either, so they go to work. Jose, Jesse, Jorge, Jackie, June, Jimbo, Jerry, Jack, Julia, Jordon and Jan get sick. 15 sick employees all because Joe didn't take the day off to see the doc and get his health checked. Now, it gets worse. See none of the other employees who are now sick have health coverage. So, the entire staff keep working for Jerk (the boss) and keep on getting sicker and sicker until they finally get so sick that on the weekend they all start showing up in the ER to get their "free healthcare". Good ol Jerk saved a few bucks, got his entire staff sick, and now they are all using the single most expensive form of health care there is, and one that costs us all more money because YOUR hospital bill is based on making some of that money back. So, rather than be responsible as an employer Jerk choose to force all of us to pay for his cheapskate business practices. Talk about cost shifting. As one person who worked at WalMart once said. When you get a job at WalMart you get three cards. Your employee ID, Your employee discount card AND food stamps, because they don't pay a living wage that allows you to pay rent and buy food. Cost shifting. Companies do it to the public rolls whenever they can. Just ask WalMart.
met00 November 17, 2012 at 12:35 AM
fagetaboutit. Drakes foods, maybe (Yodels rule!), but Hostess can sink, just thike ther products do in my stomach.
met00 November 17, 2012 at 12:36 AM
wow, you really wrote #2, or did you just cut and paste from a web site that says Stormfront on the top?
met00 November 17, 2012 at 12:38 AM
#7, you don't need a drivers license to cash a check unless that owner of that business requires it. Seems you want to restrict free trade there. #7 if you want to walk around with your birth certificate, I'm sure that they would take that as well. All you need is proof of age. #8 You clearly have never heard of the commodities markets.
met00 November 17, 2012 at 12:43 AM
#4 not all the "media", you have Faux telling you with one guest after another that Islam is the problem, not the people that happen to practice a fundamental version of it. The truth is fundies are the problem, no mater what faith they profess. #5 bad policies that allow companies to benefit from illegal labour and thus allow them to throw out carrots while the government looks the other way is what draws them here (no jobs, no illegal immigration problem). #6 I want to stick to the constitution, but every time I insist that gun owners be part of a "well regulated militia" the stupid SOBs say that it doesn't mean "well regulated militia" and means that any a-hole can own a weapon.
tiny November 17, 2012 at 01:43 AM
If I may be a little bold. Everybody wants free medical care - who doesn't. So what's the real issue? It's how to organize the world so people look towards one another in a positive or beneficial way. The problem is there is a power existing that promotes division to stay on top. And in my view the most divisive issues are economic and reproductive. And to deal with just one without bringing in the other is not going to work. Help me.
MFriedrich November 17, 2012 at 05:28 AM
Andromeda, My point is this. Question: How do you know a teenager is lying? Answer: When their lips are moving. It's the same with politicians, except more obvious. I never said anything about "leeches". That's your conclusion and your words. I don't consider all unemployed in the US to be leeches. Many are out of work through no fault of their own. Some are veterans. Unproductive? Sure. Some perhaps more and for longer than others. I find the ease with which you dismiss individuality and throw people into a "parasites bucket" repulsive. I know a number of very unproductive, incompetent small business owners too who, trust me, don't deserve the tax breaks. Your outrage is absent for them. As if the entire world is out to get you and your money, Andromeda. Chill out, and stop being so angry. One day it's over. You won't be able to take any of it with you. A friend of mine just lost her software sales job last week. Company downsizing. She's experienced, talented and sole bread winner in household. She'll have another, better job in less than 6 months. Her health insurance expires in 2 more months. Then it's over. Gone. Kids? Yes, two girls. And she has a pre-existing condition as a survivor of cervical cancer. She's not the leech you describe above. nor motivated or emboldened to cash welfare checks. The PPO or HMO she next enrolls in can't tell her "screw you" anymore. I don't care what you believe. She's not out for your money.
Andromeda November 17, 2012 at 07:29 AM
Mr. Friedrich, those who are unemployed generally qualify for COBRA insurance, which is largely subsidized. But the unemployed person does pay something at least for that insurance. I am talking mostly of the welfare crowd. Those who are professional welfare recipients. And there are millions of them. California has about 12% of the nation's population and 33% of the nation's welfare population. Those numbers are bankrupting us. And many if not most of those 33% are leeches IMO. I exclude those who have REAL disabilities and cannot possibly work. But they are the small small minority. It is VERY easy to collect welfare in this state and NOT be required to work for it. A perfect haven for professional welfare recipients. Sure, you can find anedotal exceptions. But the majority fall into the leech camp that I referred to. A business owner who is unproductive doesn't have a business for long. Obama doesn't bail out small business owners. Only rich elite banksters. Oh, and I am far from being rich. But how you generalize. You think that only rich people have ethics and morals and detest unproductive lazy people living off the dole? Why should productive middle class people be forced to purchase health care insurance from the Wall Street pigs and STILL have to fund free health care for illegal foreigners in our California hospitals??? Please respond!!! Stop with your personal anecdotes, Mr. Friedrich. I am looking at the forest, not the trees here. You know that!
Shripathi Kamath November 17, 2012 at 07:52 PM
Look at this moocher: http://bit.ly/SUz671 Too lazy to get a job, too lazy to take personal responsibility, he, like all immigrants and minorities, robs a bank. These are exactly the guys who vote for Nobama. Takers. They should all be locked up in FEMA camps. What an idiot! He robbed a bank for $1. And then he stayed there as if cops won't find and arrest him if he was in plain view. Wait, this could be a good way for Papa John's employees to get healthcare. Steal a slice of pizza, get caught and thrown in jail. Then, in an ironic twist, maybe dinner could be, you guessed it, three slices of Papa John's pizza. And free healthcare.
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 03:57 PM
Cut and pasted.
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 04:05 PM
met00 #4 They have the correct problem but Fox does not know about you also. #5 This is Bush's fault. Obama corrected it. #6 Not anyone can get a gun. There is a process and fees. #7 Who does not require ID to cash a check? #8 What commodities are you trying to associate with this simple statement? You have forever tried to twist and shake anything commented upon to justify your views. You obviously like Chubby Checker!!
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 04:08 PM
met00 EVERYONE has problems. You take care of them. It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Not public responsibility. I have been through what you described but never dreamed of asking someone else to help me and the family. On the other hand if you want to contribute more than you have the right to do so.... lol
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Who did you vote for? Was it Hope and Change or Forward??
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 04:12 PM
The ACLU fought for the right for the homeless to stay on the streets. This guy doesn't get it.
Yeparoo November 19, 2012 at 06:10 PM
This is too rich. So a pizza guy is blaming Obamacare for his rising cost of doing business. What a whiner. How often do you think Mr Papa John's complains about the significant dairy and beef subsidies that creates a false market (i.e., at or below cost) for the ingredients in his pizza. What a goober. Okay, so if the poor American diet accounts for something like 50%-70% of the cost of healthcare, can we all blame Papa Junk's Pizza for killing people and costing everyone big bucks?
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 06:40 PM
How often does he complain?
Yeparoo November 19, 2012 at 08:20 PM
"How often does he complain?" - Well, since Papa Junk's Pizza is benefiting from federal government intervention in agribusiness that LOWERS his cost of doing business unnaturally, NEVER. Never heard of a fast food chain schelping unhealthy food even once complain that the federal government was intervening in the food distribution system to artificially lower the cost of their ingredients. That is way this story is so IRONIC. Ever wonder why you can buy a hamburger (or slice of pizza) for around a dollar, but a salad is 4x the amount?
Joker Joe November 19, 2012 at 09:04 PM
You seem to have all the answers. Why??
met00 November 19, 2012 at 09:34 PM
possibly because he can read and doesn't get all his news and information from Faux News (The Pravda of the GOP) Imagine what would happen if the government got out of propping up multi-billion dollar operations like the oil and gas industry and the agribusiness and actually made them compete? Ever notice that the biggest drinkers off the federal teat are the ones that scream the loudest about the evils of individuals getting anything from the government, or worse yet, any form of government regulation for their industry? Has anyone else noticed how the GOP now represents the exact same people that the former Soviet Union did (Old wealthy angry white men)? Here's to hoping history repeats itself. .
Shripathi Kamath November 22, 2012 at 05:16 AM
And predictably Papa John blames it on some sort of misunderstanding/misquotes http://huff.to/UKOHFZ "Many in the media reported that I said Papa John's is going to close stores and cut jobs because of Obamacare. I never said that. The fact is we are going to open over hundreds of stores this year and next and increase employment by over 5,000 jobs worldwide. And, we have no plans to cut team hours as a result of the Affordable Care Act. Clearly there was some misunderstanding somewhere...." 17 cents a pizza more and healthcare for all full-time workers. Well, duh! And how's our buddy Metz doing? http://huff.to/UKP7Ml As for consequences to those who damage the brand, a Denny's spokesperson said, "We have a variety of options depending on the circumstances to respond to franchisee actions that are not in the best interests of the brand and deal with those on a individual franchisee basis as required." Ooops, Denny's is going to exercise some options *cough*lawsuit*cough*. Why? Because patrons reacted, and other owners not associated with Denny's lost some business. ++ Mouannes told HuffPost. "People didn't like what they heard and were saying they wouldn't support Denny's, but we have nothing to do with that decision. I am not a fan of the idea. We are opposing the 5 percent [surcharge] -- it's not even a consideration for us." Wonder if Patch would do a follow-up on this.
MFriedrich November 22, 2012 at 06:57 AM
Ah yes, the old "I never said that!" excuse. It's worth noting that Denny's spent billions of dollars over several decades trying to build up their brand. It's striking that, in a matter of minutes, the public statement of one inarticulate dolt can jeopardize it all and also harm the investments of peer franchisees across the country. Small business owners should be rewarded for taking risks and "creating" jobs. But clearly some of them never went to business school, and even fewer possess the common sense required when dealing with the media.
Shripathi Kamath November 22, 2012 at 09:01 AM
"I never said that" "You misunderstood me" "It was an error in judgment" "The media twisted my words" They are all standard issue. Here's the thing. The media encourages this. Witness this very article. Patch.com published it for rather obvious reasons. Since the Romney loss, interest has waned, so we need juicy topics. Presenting the fear of the unknown with Papa John's filled the need. And if you remember our conversation (it is still up there), I kinda predicted how it'll be diffused by the CEO. But I waited a day to post it to verify that Patch will ignore it. Of course they will, because it is no longer a story that'll draw interest. Most of our media does this, which is why those excuses work. A good drinking game is to guess which excuse will be used for what. The Petraeus story would make nice headlines, but it needs an angle that somehow riles the right wing. I suspect that'll come when we can shape the story into an indictment on Susan Rice. What else? I suppose they could (at least at MV) talk about the four corner holiday displays. Because this year the secular humanists/backyard skeptics have an exhibit wishing all a joyous solstice. Surely the war on Christmas has a ring to it.
Shripathi Kamath November 22, 2012 at 09:03 AM
..and speaking of the War on Christmas, guess we will not hear much about these ones: http://bit.ly/ScgAK1 Well, Happy Thanksgiving mfriedrich, have safe fun with your family and friends.


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