Orange County law enforcement's holiday driving crackdown resulted in 971 DUI arrests, according to the Sheriff's Department.
The city, county and state agencies involved in the Avoid the 38 campaign, which took place from Dec. 14 to Jan. 1, used sobriety checkpoints, special saturation patrols and routine patrols in its effort to curb impaired driving. The campaign's name refers to the number of agencies taking part.
According to the Sheriff's Department, last year's arrest total was 836. As during last year, there were no DUI deaths in Orange County during the campaign dates, though the figures for this campaign are provisional, says the department; some agencies have yet to report.
Law enforcement is already planning for more such operations—during Super Bowl Sunday in February and then again for St. Patrick’s Day celebrations in March.
Grant funding for the holiday program was provided by the California Office of Traffic Safety through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which contends that sobriety checkpoint programs can yield cost savings of $6 for every $1 spent.
I bet the bar owners who fed these drunk drivers the liquor that got them drunk made nice profits too without any punishment. What crooked system these thugs have created for profit. Land of the free and home of the brave, eh??? HAH! What a farce!!!! HAH! :)
However, it is ILLEGAL to knowingly send a drunk driver on the road. The bar and bartender can be totally liable if they do. That is why they call cabs. No bar wants to kill people or get sued for millions! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dram_shop
Let some of that sink in between your ears, fool. hah. :)
I am vigorous opposed to the system punishing INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE NO WRONG for the actions of a drunk. And this is PRECISELY what DUI checkpoints do.....THEY PUNISH INNOCENT LAW-ABIDING TAXPAYERS. So there you go, Paul in SB. No attacks - JUST THE FACTS. Have wonderful day.
"Don't drink and drive". Seems like a reasonable proposition.
Have a good day, sir!! :)
Seems like a reasonable proposition. heh. :)
I don't find these actions punishing at all. I'm fine with being inconvenienced for a few minutes, or even arriving late to my destination, if it means I'm alive with my passengers at the end of the journey. Just want to point that out. I completely lament the damage to civil liberties with JustUs. It is indeed very sad. It angers me too, particularly at airports, etc. Using the pareto principle, probably 20% of the people are using horribly bad judgement, and "ruining it" for the other 80% who are reasonable and law-abiding. The part that isn't registering is the violent, permanent consequence and loss of these 20%ers. It's not like they are jaywalkers. They're not riding a bicycle on the sidewalk without a helmet. I think this non-registration can be attributed to simply not yet being affected by a drunk driving death. Sadly the statistics in OC and California are so damning in this area, we are all more likely than ever before to lose someone we know or love right now to a drunk driver. Perhaps bartenders could do more. This doesn't mean we should allow the 20%ers to keep killing innocent people because of their lack of personal control and good judgement.
I don't find these actions punishing at all." Then you are promoting what I consider to be fascist police-state policies. Punishing law-abiding innocent people by forcing them to submit to police actions is fascist by definition - whether you refuse to acknowledge it or not. "I completely lament the damage to civil liberties with JustUs." No you don't. Your previous opinion rejects that notion. Now you speak from both sides of your mouth. "I think this non-registration can be attributed to simply not yet being affected by a drunk driving death." You're right. I am not emotionally involved here. I am thinking objectively and with a clear mind unlike others (if the shoe fits, put it on). "This doesn't mean we should allow the 20%ers to keep killing innocent people because of their lack of personal control and good judgement." I have mentioned REPEATEDLY on this board how we could take drunk drivers OFF THE ROAD more efficiently and effectively without violatin the civil right of innocent, law-abiding, obedient taxpaying citizens. Yet you continue to ignore my proposals - which means that you are IMO really no better than the fascists who promote these unspeakable violations of our taxpayers civil liberties. Have a wonderful Friday, btw.
This is non-sense, not to mention stupidly addressing the wrong problem. People go to bars for a reason. They want to have a drink or maybe 10. You're addressing binge drinking, not drunk driving. You're hatred of police DUI checkpoints has too blinded you to notice, but your own stupid proposal violates and punishes the law-abiding, taxpaying citizens who simply want to have 3 drinks or more, and who have the common sense and self-control to hire a cab or ride with a designated driver. Who's talking out of both sides of their mouth now? Yes, I lost a very close friend to a drunk driver. He had been drinking beer since 3:00 p.m. and then drove home at 10:30 pm. She was decapitated by him in her car and died on the scene. Her body was burned beyond recognition. Her death destroyed her once happy family completely. I'm not going to apologize to you or anybody else for my convictions on this subject. So you're inconvenienced for 5 minutes at a DUI checkpoint. Deal. You're like the sighing, whining business man complaining aloud at the airport security line behind of a young family of 4, or an elderly woman in a wheel chair.
Yes, seems like a reasonable proposition.
Are you kidding me? Aren't you the person screaming from the rooftops about civil liberties? You want to tell a private businessperson how much of their product they can sell in what amount of time? Drinking is not against the law. Drinking & DRIVING is the crime we are discussing. What about the RESPONSIBLE people who walk home, ride their bike, use a DD or call a cab? You want to restrict EVERYONE's right to consume a legal product because you don't want to be inconvenienced for 5 minutes by a DUI checkpoint? Not to mentioned that your ridiculous idea could easily be circumvented simply by going to more than one bar. You've got to be the biggest hypocrite I have ever encountered.
You have it back assward again JustUs. The bartender is not keeping count of the quantity of drinks you've had and the hours in between each one. He's not doing it for one customer, let alone 100 different customers that may come and go. You are certifiably insane with this line of thinking, man. But ok, sure, let's also have the grocery store checkpoint lady pick over your selections too while we're at it. Ah, she notices you've bought another package of double-stuff Oreo's! That's two in one month! Nope, can't have it. Sorry, you've hit the double-stuff Oreo limit, dude. You lament away about police searches and actions and lunge away at Nazi-ism that exists only in your mind, but then you advocate the exact same thing only disguised in another costume. Maybe time to head back to your laboratory and drawing board to cook up some other less bad ideas.
I am not arguing that drunk drivers are good people. I am only saying don't punish (yes, forcing good obedient taxpayers to pull their cars to the side of the road when they've done NOTHING wrong IS PUNISHMENT!) good law-abiding taxpayers with DUI checkpoints when there are much more effective and efficients ways to catch drunk drivers (which I have clearly documented!) Enjoy your Friday. Contribute to the next policeman's ball. They only make as much as medical doctors and need your contributions to fund their social activities too! heh. :)
More ignorance. Bartenders who serve customers past the point of inebriation are already breaking the LAW. Oh, but you don't like that LAW, do you??? But you like LAWS that punish innocent, law-abiding, obedient taxpayers by FORCING them to pull their cars to the side of the road and submit to police actions. HAH! What a clown you are! heh. You don't want the cops to harass law-breaking bar owners and their employees but you have no problem with the cops harassing innocent law-abiding citizens just driving their cars down the street minding their own business while obeying all the traffic laws. You like that harassment!!! HAH! Like I said....you're a clown. :)
yeah, no doubt you're right, Dusty. But there is a difference. When a cop drinks and drives and gets pulled over by one of his "brothers" he gets a free pass - a wink and a nod - and either told to be careful or a free ride home. There's your difference, sir. heh. Has DVM ever done a per capita study that compares how many cops are arrested for DUI versus the general population? Of course not. heh. The system has to protect the 'King's men". heh.
--------------------------------------------------------- One new year's eve night a police officer was stalking out a particularly rowdy bar for possible DUI violations. At closing time, he saw a fellow stumble out of the bar, trip over the curb, and try his keys on five different cars, before he found his own car. This "falling down drunk" got in and sat in the front seat fumbling around with his keys for several minutes. Meanwhile, the other patrons began leaving the bar and drove off while the officer kept his eye on the "falling down drunk" guy. Finally after fumbling for his keys for so long, he found the correct key, started his engine and began to slowly pull away. The police officer was waiting for him. As soon as he pulled onto the street, the officer stopped the "falling down drunk" guy, read him his rights and administered the Breathalyzer test to determine his blood-alcohol content. The results showed a reading of 0.0. The puzzled officer demand to know how that could be? The driver replied: "Tonight I'm the designated decoy."
Look it's not my fault that what you define as "salient" or call an "argument" is unlettered and shoddily structured. I suggest you give the whole thing up and start on another unrelated thread.
"What you know couldn't fill an empty sack." Thanks once again for the victory, mfriedrich. You are way too easy. :^)
Btw, the joke really wasn't very funny. What it home made by chance? :)